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  1. I used to visit Greece a long time ago, and I found it to be very beautiful. It seemed poor in some areas but the people were always hospitable. Greece to me was a paradise, and I dream of going back there to visit.

     

    I would be interested to know the impact that the illegal migrants have made in Greece. Has it become less safe, where do those migrants stay, etc.? I am amazed at how the people on the islands could even cope with such huge numbers of migrants coming in.

     

    Do you think that the idea of putting migrant hotspots in Greece is good?

     

    Welcome to Hellenism.Net

     

    How many years ago did you visit Greece?

    Greece went through some radical changes in the past 20 years or so. Not always to the better, but that's up to anyone's interpretation. In its core Greece remains the same. Part European part middle eastern. A crossroad of civilizations, as it's always been, with all the good and bad things that come with this.

     

    In terms of what's happening with the migrants from Syria (and other places...) over the past couple of years, the situation has been getting worse lately, mainly for the islands by the coast of Turkey. Kos and Lesvos are overwhelmed with thousands of migrants and can barely cope. I read that most of those migrants have now been moved to Athens and mainland Greece, but again this doesn't solve the problem. Greece cannot help those poor souls, not in the numbers they're arriving.

     

    These people want to move to the richer northern European countries anyway. Holding them "hostage" in Greece only makes the situation more difficult and more frustrating for them.

     

    To your question about safety, I don't think those migrants pose any threat to anyone. They're not there to hurt people or create trouble. They've been through hell trying to get out of their war torn countries so the last thing they want is more trouble. What they want is to get their documents processed as soon as possible so that they can move on to countries which can provide them with work and support to start a new life. Unfortunately Greece cannot offer this to them at this point.


  2. If you think that the Acropolis (and ancient Greek architecture in general) is nothing impressive then you probably have a different point of view as compared to most of your compatriots as looking at German architecture from Reichstag to I don't know what else, most of it is directly influenced by the ancient Greek architecture.

     

    In any case, seems that you're more impressed by big things. Good for you.


  3. Near Perfect?

    So there is nothing that has to change in Greece from your "Tourist" point of view?

    I guess it depends on what sort of Tourist you are. You could be the kind of resort tourist that spends a week at a Red Sea resort in Egypt and walks away with the impression that Egypt is "Near Perfect" or you could be the Tourist that walks off to mingle with the People and ends up being bombed or being featured in a beheading video. Granted. Things aren't like that in Greece but If you go mingle you'll see the desolate situation of the Greek state and society.

     

    I'm the kind of tourist who does both. I spend some time at the resorts where life is great and everything is perfect. I also spend time with friends and family in Pireas and live the life of a local, where things are not perfect yet they're not as bad as you make it sound to be.

     

    Sure, Greeks don't go out as much as they used to when the economy was in better shape, or they don't go to month-long vacations any more, but so what? Life in Greece, for me as a tourist, is still as idyllic as it has always been. People are great, the weather is awesome, food/drinks are amazing and on top of this it's safe to walk around without any fear any time of the day, no matter if you are on a busy touristy island or in downtown Pireas or Athens.

     

    Do this anywhere in the US if you dare, or even anywhere in Mexico, Caribbean etc. Heck, even in Canada you don't feel quite safe in most large cities when it gets dark.


  4. This is a very open ended question. Do I see anything wrong in Greece? Sure, lots of things. But the same way, I see many things wrong in Canada too, and I'm sure each and every country has its own list of things that are not done right.

     

    At the end of the day, speaking for myself, I only visit Greece as a tourist over the past 20 years. I own nothing in Greece and I don't have to deal with government agencies etc. So from my point of view, that of a tourist, Greece is very close to perfect. The people are great, the weather is amazing, the land is wonderful, the country is safe, so I don't really have much to complain about.

     

    Sure, when I spend time in Athens I'd wish that the city streets were cleaner, there was less graphitti etc. but other than that spending a month in Greece once a year is a treat for me and my family.


  5. Let's please get back in topic. We're talking about the VW scandal in this post. Moving forward all irrelevant posts will be deleted from here.

     

    Interesting article about how all this affects the car dealers selling VW vehicles.

     

     

    Lost in the flurry of corporate malfeasance and consumer outrage over the Volkswagen emissions cheating scandal is another victim -- the Volkswagen dealer.

     

    Neither employed by Volkswagen nor legally liable for the auto manufacturer's misdeeds, VW dealers find themselves caught in the middle. The product they sell is tainted, and the consumers they serve are furious, while the world waits to learn what the car company will do to resolve the problem.

     

    "Our dealers don’t manufacture Volkswagens, they sell them,” said Brian Maas, president of the California New Car Dealers Assn., which represents 50 VW dealers across the state. “They have worked hard to build their brand and customer loyalty but have been harmed by the dishonesty of their own business partner, VW."

     

    http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-volkswagen-dealers-emissions-scandal-20150928-story.html


  6. Another interesting fact is that Athens is the sunniest capital/large city in Europe enjoying 2771 hours of sunshine every year. I don't need to tell you how many hours of sunshine you get in your cities.  :P

    No wonder why you guys are so jealous of Greece.  :D

     

    In short, you guys can continue producing hypermodern industrial commodities while we'll continue enjoying the sun and the sea. 


  7. You continue provoking users in this forum whenever they post something against Germany or against some German company. You called us "Christian Turks" and eyoismos retaliated with a Greek swear. Nothing wrong with it. If you don't want people swearing at you then stop provoking them.

     

    As you can see I didn't delete your insults (you also talk about Greek being a "dead language" in a later post), the same way I'm not going to delete eyoismos' insults. I don't need to remind you, one more time, that this is a Greek and not a German forum. You're obviously welcome here to post your opinion about anything, but if you expect respect then you should show respect to this website and to this forum and its users.


  8. After Siemens we now have VW. German capitalism at its best! I guess that's the nature of the beast. Corporations need to show profits, and they'll do anything in their power - even cheat or bend the rules - in order to do this.

    Funny thing is that Americans point the finger to the Germans about all this shit  :D

     

    In Greece we say "είπε ο γάιδαρος τον πετεινό κεφάλα". The closest equivalent in english would be "the pot calling the kettle black"  :D

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