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  1. we are most definately on the same page

     

    i mean ... "they" , and i am talking about the monstrous numbers, seem to to be prepared to sacrifice their wives and kids to the ravages of the sea, but are not prepared to fight for them on home turf ?

     

    come on !!!

     

    something a lot bigger is afoot

     

    what that is?

     

    your guess is as good as mine

     

    It's not the same. Taking a chance to cross the Aegean (which is really a short boat ride) is not half as risky as compared to staying at home and having to deal with the crazies of ISIS. If those boats used by those smugglers were half decent then crossing from Turkey to Samos or Lesvos should be really really easy.

     

    I've been to both islands and from some areas you can really see that Turkey is really close. In good weather conditions I could easily swim this distance myself, and I'm not an athlete or anything.


  2. Dream on if you think that Turkey will be taking back any of those poor souls. 

     

    In the meantime, in the real world, Greece is still receiving wave after wave of immigrants in the islands of Samos and Lesvos, despite the terrible weather conditions lately. I'm afraid that we'll be seeing more and more of these people dying over the next few months because of bad weather conditions during the winter months.

     

    This is a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions and I don't see anyone finding any easy solutions any time soon.


  3. I think that the Germans take these things seriously and some heads are going to roll. Despite all the fun we poke here, you have to agree that the Germans have the mechanisms in place to find and punish the culprits of this scandal.

    If this would have happened in Greece, Italy, Turkey or some other Mediterranean country I'd be pretty certain that there would be massive cover ups.


  4. Interesting read:

     

     

    ...Eleven Icelandic former bankers have been sentenced to at least 4½ years in prison. The sentences are longest for the most senior figures within the banks.

     

    Magnus Sveinn Helgason, who worked for the Icelandic government’s inquiry into the crash, told The Daily Beast that the evidence seen by him and his colleagues suggested there would be many more successful prosecutions to come.

     

    “This is just the beginning,” he said. “I was kind of surprised when they were sentenced because you get used to people getting away with these things but many of these were just open-and-shut cases. There were textbook examples of insider trading, in some cases it was so egregious that it looked as though someone had made it up as a joke.”

     

     

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/23/iceland-where-bankers-go-to-jail-for-74-years.html


  5. Me neither. But that's not where you learn to cook Greek food. I've learned to cook by looking over my Grandmothers shoulder and by sitting around in my mothers kitchen.

     

    Exactly, that's the way most of these Greek "cooks" learnt how to cook. However, watching your grandma cook doesn't make you a cook qualified to serve food to thousands of people over the course of years  :D


  6. In my heart I hope that Greece can be fixed but in my head I know that this can not happen. A Greek posted in a parallel post that he finds Greece is "Near Perfect". And that unfortunately how most Greeks think. People who think themselves perfect don't even try to change.

     

    PS found another Eyo pic on the web

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    Sorry to break your bubble, but this is the real photo of eyo  :D

     

    61911_10151555152418537_1023143349_n.jpg


  7. Don't underestimate the people's internal thoughts and motives which we, as outsiders, know very little about.

     

    I've met quite a few "Turks" in my professional life, all over Canada and the US. Most of them professionals and immigrants to the US or Canada like myself. I was very surprised to find out that most of them were not introducing themselves as "Turks" but as something else. Other than the obvious Kurds and Armenians (and a few who claimed Greek ancestry when they found out I'm Greek) I heard some pretty weird backgrounds, such as Assyrians (at least a couple), and Dagestani (when someone told me he was a Dagestani I had to Google that one to find out where these people were from as I had never heard this before).

     

    In any case, seems that Turkey is not as homogenous as many people think. According to Wikipedia at least 30% of Turkey's population belongs to some minority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minorities_in_Turkey) even though from talking to some of the Turks I've met their estimate is that this percentage is much higher.

     

    In a society like this it may take just a spark to start a fire. This spark could be a bombing in a demonstration, or some killing of an important person, or who knows what.

     

    On your question around how would I see Turkey splitting up. I'm not sure. I'm not an expert in the area and I don't know much about all this people's histories, background and struggles, to know how they'd react in certain situations and what they'd request.

     

    An obvious division would be between the "European" side of Turkey (Istanbul area and the Aegean coast) and central Turkey, while the far east may become Kurdistan or part of a Kurdish territory which will include lands from Iraq too after they clean up ISIS. Who knows how things will play out.

     

    It goes without saying that Russia wouldn't want a strong Turkey in the area and they'd be more than happy to see them losing some of their lands and power. I don't really know what the US or the Europeans would want to see in the area. I'd assume that a large and strong Turkey scares all of them so they too would be more than happy to see a division of power in that area.

     

    Again, I'm not an expert in these things, I'm just an observer of historical events, and history, more often than not, repeats itself.


  8. The end of Erdogan will be the end of the neo-Ottoman Turkey and possibly the beginning of a different - possibly fragmented - and more democratic Turkey.

     

    In the meantime, people have taken to the streets yet again: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/11/turkey-bomb-blasts-ankara-mourning-scores-killed

    Next month's elections in Turkey will show what direction the country will take in the future. 

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