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Σχεδόν τριάντα γερμανικές τράπεζες, ανάμεσά τους η Deutsche Bank και η Commerzbank, χρησιμοποίησαν τις υπηρεσίες της εταιρείας δικηγόρων Μοσάκ Φονσέκα του Παναμά, η οποία βρίσκεται στην καρδιά ενός τεράστιου σκανδάλου φοροαποφυγής

 

 

Ανάμεσα σε άλλες γερμανικές τράπεζες που αξιοποίησαν τις υπηρεσίες της Μοσάκ Φονσέκα ξεχωρίζουν η Κόμερτσμπανκ, η Dresdner Bank, αλλά και η BayernLB.

Panama Papers: Τουλάχιστον 28 γερμανικές τράπεζες και η Siemens μέσα στα έγγραφα

 

 

«πολλές χιλιάδες Γερμανοί χρησιμοποίησαν τις εταιρείες-βιτρίνες της Μοσάκ Φονσέκα»

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και ύστερα μερικοί γερμανοί είχαν την αναίδεια να λένε τους ελληνες κλέφτες

 

δηλαδή ... είπε ο γάϊδαρος τον πετεινό κεφάλα

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έχουμε μιά εκφραση εδώ ... (και μεταφράζω)

 

πρόσεχε όταν δείχνεις με το δάκτυλο σου, διότι ειναι άλλα τρια που δείχνουν τον εαυτον σου

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απ΄ ότι διαβάζω, εμπλέκεται και σύμβουλος του πρώην πρωθυπουργού Αντώνη Σαμαρά, (και δύο άλλοι έλληνες)

 

:wacko:

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Did anyone see a list of all the banks involved? I have trouble finding it.

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Did anyone see a list of all the banks involved? I have trouble finding it.

define "involved"

 

i mean .... lets say somebody with big bucks  is completely clean and legit (cough) and asks his/her bank to do some money transfers to anywhere... etc ... which bank would deny that right to anybody?

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wait a minute ... are you suggesting that avoiding taxes results in "clean money" ... who is your banker ?... i wanna speak to them

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No, I meant that the money was "clean". Those rich people just use a bank to facilitate the scheme, because the money must somehow be "transferred" offshore by the bank. Although the money was "cleanly" earned, they don't want to pay tax on it. The money, of course, is not transferred to Panama, but to other countries like the UK, Luxembourg, Switzerland, probably Germany, etc., where it is safe.

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be that what it may .since you asked though, a i mentioned above, about the grrman banks that have been found wanting ...

 

Deutsche Bank, Commerzbank, Dresdner Bank, BayernLB.

you know .... the usual suspects

 

of course, as usual they all come with excuses like a certain year they blah blah blah and all the rest , and supposedly no longer deal with panama .... which implies that they are now dealing with other ....hmmmmm what shall we call them now to still be politically correct and "legal" ?

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No, I meant that the money was "clean". Those rich people just use a bank to facilitate the scheme, because the money must somehow be "transferred" offshore by the bank. Although the money was "cleanly" earned, they don't want to pay tax on it. The money, of course, is not transferred to Panama, but to other countries like the UK, Luxembourg, Switzerland, probably Germany, etc., where it is safe.

that STILL implies that avoiding taxes means the amount transferred is clean money

 

like i said ... who do you bank with ?... i need to speak to them,,, and while you are at it, your tax expert too

:P

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Panama is not the only country doing that, there are plenty of other tax havens. Actually, Luxembourg and the UK are amongst the worst in helping people to avoid tax, but I don't think they are on the black list which is drawn up by Americans and Europeans, as you can imagine. 

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I defined "clean", I think. Money legally earned but on which tax has been avoided could be called "illegal", if you want, instead of un-clean. 

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Panama is not the only country doing that, there are plenty of other tax havens. Actually, Luxembourg and UK are amongst the worst in helping people avoid tax, but I don't think they are on the black list which is drawn up by Americans and Europeans, as you can imagine.

and of course ...that is where the german and british prefer to use ...and that cyrpus was becoming a threat to them, so off they went and did a number on cyrpus, so all those there ... pump them into Luxembourg and the rest

 

supreme vicious predators delux as usual

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I defined "clean", I think. Money legally earned but on which tax has been avoided could be called "illegal", if you want, instead of un-clean. 

no matter how you swing it, the percetage that is transferred that belongs to the taxman is not only NOT clean, but illegal too

 

stop trying to pull a lawyerspeak  thing on us simpletons

 

hahahaahhaha

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Not paying taxes does not render the clean money un-clean, it is just illegal.  

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ok ..so what you are saying is stolen money from the state is not the same as the rest of the illegally acquired fortunes, like from crime ... which in case you dont realize, is ALSO illegal

 

who knew

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so stealing money from the state is not a crime , therefore not crime money?

 

come on ...stop pussy footing around the facts like a lawyer on crack

 

its illegal, its criminal and calling it anything else is just plain crazy

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according to le monde, a french newspaper, banks like HSBC, UBS ,Credit Suisse, and the french Société Générale dealt with the panama boys in order to set up dummy corporates and ...well.... you know the rest

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first major victim down. prime minister of iceland forced to resign, (even though originally refused to do so, pleading innocence) and iceland now in political crisis

 

wonder if he ever serves a "Normal" (as in average joe blogs) sentence in icelands favorite prison

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havnt read the article yet, (gimme a chance ...there are so many to follow up on) but i reckon they have their smackaroos in other money laundering tax havens ..."legally" of course

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Chile's head of Transparency International resigns after 'Panama Papers'

 

the rabbit hole is getting deeper and deeper with no end in sight

 

 

While Delaveau is not accused of illegal activity, the leaks called into question his post at Transparency International, a German-based organization that seeks to monitor and root out corporate and political corruption worldwide.

 

german? who knew?

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