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market orientated and patriotism are almost a  contradiction in terms. patriotism is claimed by the right but so does the left, so your political reference is ...well.... obvious where it belongs ... in the junk heap

 

patriotism does not have political affiliations

 

and any fool that thinks otherwise simply is wearing masks of political convenience and horse blinkers

 

 

I believe in a powerful germany that dominates europe and is a global player. My ideology does not include free luxury for evryone. 

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I believe in a powerful germany that dominates europe and is a global player. My ideology does not include free luxury for evryone.

Perhaps you haven't noriced but Nazi is shorthand for National Sozialist, SPD stands for Sozial-Demokratische Partei, CSU stands for Christlich-Soziale Union and Ludwig Erhard (CDU) introduced (under Adenauer) Die Soziale Marktwirtschaft in Germany. Do you notice a pattern here?

 

Germany is build upon a social consensus centered around the "Solidaritätsprinzip" this is what alowed Germany to absorb the millions of refugees from the east and rebuild from ruins after WW II. And, lets not forget, shoulder the economic cost of the German unification. As someone with an East German background I'm sure you've heard the word Solidaritätszuschlag before.

 

The power of a Nation depends on the well being of her people and not on the profits of a tiny elite of stock holders who will dump your stock the moment they discover something marginaly more profitable. People are a Nation's greatest Kapital and the source of her power and Germany's Soziale Marktwirtschaft was build on that premise.

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Solidaritätsprinzip = solidarity principle ?

only asking because google translate reckoned that word was all greek to it, so i am making an educated guess

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Solidaritätsprinzip = solidarity principle ?

only asking because google translate reckoned that word was all greek to it, so i am making an educated guess

You are spot on.

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Perhaps you haven't noriced but Nazi is shorthand for National Sozialist, SPD stands for Sozial-Demokratische Partei, CSU stands for Christlich-Soziale Union and Ludwig Erhard (CDU) introduced (under Adenauer) Die Soziale Marktwirtschaft in Germany. Do you notice a pattern here?

 

Germany is build upon a social consensus centered around the "Solidaritätsprinzip" this is what alowed Germany to absorb the millions of refugees from the east and rebuild from ruins after WW II. And, lets not forget, shoulder the economic cost of the German unification. As someone with an East German background I'm sure you've heard the word Solidaritätszuschlag before.

 

The power of a Nation depends on the well being of her people and not on the profits of a tiny elite of stock holders who will dump your stock the moment they discover something marginaly more profitable. People are a Nation's greatest Kapital and the source of her power and Germany's Soziale Marktwirtschaft was build on that premise.

 

Indeed and the large majority of germans lives better as ever before. Thats what counts and nothing else. 

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The power of a Nation depends on the well being of her people and not on the profits of a tiny elite of stock holders...

 

Well said. This is something most political leaders have forgotten these days.

 

The scary thought is that today's situation is ripe for the rise of "social" movements like the one instigated by Hitler's Nazi party. It's not really surprising that "national socialism" is on the rise all over Europe these days. There's a Greek "saying" which describes the situation in Europe these days. In Greek we say "smells like gunpowder", meaning that the situation is pretty explosive.

 

And that's exactly what it is. It may just take a spark - some possibly insignificant event - to get the explosions started.

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Indeed and the large majority of germans lives better as ever before. Thats what counts and nothing else. 

 

which makes a complete mockery of not being a "leftist fanboy",  .... considering it was "leftist fanboys", in the form that ajax pointed out, is what made germany what it is today

 

dare i suggest ...thats what counts and nothing else, perhaps ?

 

as i have repeatedly said .. there is no such thing as ONE truth but many

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which makes a complete mockery of not being a "leftist fanboy",  .... considering it was "leftist fanboys", in the form that ajax pointed out, is what made germany what it is today

 

dare i suggest ...thats what counts and nothing else, perhaps ?

 

as i have repeatedly said .. there is no such thing as ONE truth but many

 

No, leftists only had a grip on eastern germany and that failed miserably. Germany never was build on the ideology that evryone becomes a free loader. Its build on hard work.

 

Basic fact is, that you will always have a certain amount of people totally useless for the system. They can´t do anything. Germany is a hightech nation. So of course you have some that get the short end of the deal. 

 

They get Hartz IV and with that a moderate living standard. Thats the social aspect. Its an illussion that you can get those into qualified work. 

 

During my trainee ship i had to work 2 weeks in the "Jobcenter". Thats how the Hartz IV Office is named. The reason behind this was, that they want us trainees to also see that part of the system, so we don´t end up in a "Bundesbank Ivory Tower". 

 

What i saw there was bizarre. That was in 2014 and i got calls where they excused for not coming at a proposed meeting with their case manager that was 2 years ago. They simply don´t know what year is. I guess when yu sit all day at home you lose the feeling about space and time. 

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Ah this all alludes to the "aryan" race, which brings back great memories...

You have a problem with my race?

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You have a problem with my race?

The Sanskrit term comes from proto-Indo-Iranian *arya- or *aryo-, the name used by the Indo-Iranians to designate themselves. The Zend airya 'venerable' and Old Persian ariya are also derivates of *aryo- and are also self-designations

 

which is amusing that PT should embrace it... but it explains why syrians are not welcome ...besides ... indians dont particularly like pakis ...

 

it also explains why the aryan race adopted an ancient indian symbol and made the world fear and loath it

 

yup... i guess everything makes sense now

 

:lol:

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No, leftists only had a grip on eastern germany and that failed miserably. Germany never was build on the ideology that evryone becomes a free loader. Its build on hard work.

 

Basic fact is, that you will always have a certain amount of people totally useless for the system. They can´t do anything. Germany is a hightech nation. So of course you have some that get the short end of the deal. 

 

They get Hartz IV and with that a moderate living standard. Thats the social aspect. Its an illussion that you can get those into qualified work. 

 

During my trainee ship i had to work 2 weeks in the "Jobcenter". Thats how the Hartz IV Office is named. The reason behind this was, that they want us trainees to also see that part of the system, so we don´t end up in a "Bundesbank Ivory Tower". 

 

What i saw there was bizarre. That was in 2014 and i got calls where they excused for not coming at a proposed meeting with their case manager that was 2 years ago. They simply don´t know what year is. I guess when yu sit all day at home you lose the feeling about space and time. 

 

judging a political system based on "all animals are equal" and condemning it simply because some decided " some animals are more equal than others" makes you a terrible judge

 

would you be so harsh in your criticism of other political systems and their failings. i think not, and past posts prove it. in fact i think you like wearing tunnel vision blinkers because it suits you

 

and just because you where condemned to "2 weeks of hard labour" away from your "ivory towers" does NOT make you an authority on the desperation and/or depression and/or fatalistic attitudes and hopelessness of the chronically and perpetually unemployed

 

sure ... they are always bad apples in any random basket, the basket being the unemployed, but to have nothing but contempt for the whole crop, let alone the basket in question ... makes you highly suspect a judge of character of anybody

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which is amusing that PT should embrace it... but it explains why syrians are not welcome ...besides ... indians dont particularly like pakis ...

 

it also explains why the aryan race adopted an ancient indian symbol and made the world fear and loath it

 

yup... i guess everything makes sense now

 

:lol:

 

 

I think you have no clue about history. Germans are aryans. Thats not even debated in anthropology. Our ancesters are the same as proto iranians and that can be proven back by language and cultural things. The common ancestor is called proto indo european. Guess what the "Indo" stands for.

 

To give an example. The word daughter in german means Tochter and in Farsi (iranian) dokhtar. Germans have their roots in western asia and the caucasus region and invaded europe and their later homeland roughly 6000 years ago. 

 

The swastika was not "stolen" but used in germanic mythology since thousands of years

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judging a political system based on "all animals are equal" and condemning it simply because some decided " some animals are more equal than others" makes you a terrible judge

 

would you be so harsh in your criticism of other political systems and their failings. i think not, and past posts prove it. in fact i think you like wearing tunnel vision blinkers because it suits you

 

and just because you where condemned to "2 weeks of hard labour" away from your "ivory towers" does NOT make you an authority on the desperation and/or depression and/or fatalistic attitudes and hopelessness of the chronically and perpetually unemployed

 

sure ... they are always bad apples in any random basket, the basket being the unemployed, but to have nothing but contempt for the whole crop, let alone the basket in question ... makes you highly suspect a judge of character of anybody

 

I´m aware of that, that evry case is different. But the basic fact is, that you have a problem when you are unemployed in germany. Our job market is overheating right now. Corporations struggle to find workers. Whats the reason then for someone to be unemployed? 

 

btw i didn´t see those two weeks as being condemned. I saw it as very interesting because it confronted me with problems i never had. 

 

Believe it or not, i´m quite empathic in such things. You only have 30 minutes per case and the clock is running. I had one elderly man who was 60 years old and owned his own business. I noticed that he was deeply disturbed that he had to take the benefits. And i started to talk with him. About his business, what he does, how the market works. He told me he used all his savings to pay his two workers in the last two years. I told him that i know its hard and can understand that he feels terrible. But that he should not be ashamed. Many have the same fate and nobody judges in such a case and it really helped him. He said dozens of times thank you, when he left. I got a call from the teamleader responsible for me who asked what takes me so long and i simply said i´m new and still have to figure out how the programs work. 

 

I don´t know but i felt it was the right thing to do. I noticed how miserable he felt and i thought i can´t pull my 08/15 procedure here

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I think you have no clue about history. Germans are aryans. Thats not even debated in anthropology. Our ancesters are the same as proto iranians and that can be proven back by language and cultural things. The common ancestor is called proto indo european. Guess what the "Indo" stands for.

 

To give an example. The word daughter in german means Tochter and in Farsi (iranian) dokhtar. Germans have their roots in western asia and the caucasus region and invaded europe and their later homeland roughly 6000 years ago. 

 

The swastika was not "stolen" but used in germanic mythology since thousands of years

 

i see you still have problems with irony, sarcasm and mockery

 

didnt the :lol: give even a hint?

 

for the record, aryan race was an invention of the 18th century, and included a crap load more people than only the germans, and included romans greeks, celts and slavs, amoungst others , which make a complete mockery of your "my race" at least in the way you intended

 

apart from .....

"Herodotus in his Histories remarks about the Iranian Medes that: "These Medes were called anciently by all people Arians; " . In Armenian sources, the Parthians, Medes and Persians are collectively referred to as Aryans"

i guess that makes you a persian too :D

 

 

for the record as well, the oldest depiction of a swastika look-alike was somewhere in the ukraine, BUT

 

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the swastika, a symbol that today easily arouses anger and/or fear when displayed in public. The swastika has been used in many different cultures for thousands of years. The word itself comes from Hindu Sanskrit and translates to “well-being”. But in 1920, the Nazi Party in Germany adopted the symbol, using it to represent their belief in the supremacy of the Aryan Race – people with white skin, blond hair, and blue eyes.

 

 

take note ..... HINDU ..does that even tell you something at all

 

 

but since you admit you are indo(whatever) ... you should have absolutely no problems with pakistanis and indians invading your "space" called germany  ....after all ... they are your own race

 

:P

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i see you still have problems with irony, sarcasm and mockery

 

didnt the :lol: give even a hint?

 

for the record, aryan race was an invention of the 18th century, and included a crap load more people than only the germans, and included romans greeks, celts and slavs, amoungst others , which make a complete mockery of your "my race" at least in the way you intended

 

apart from .....

 

i guess that makes you a persian too :D

 

 

for the record as well, the oldest depiction of a swastika look-alike was somewhere in the ukraine, BUT

 

swastika_1.png

 

 

 

take note ..... HINDU ..does that even tell you something at all

 

 

but since you admit you are indo(whatever) ... you should have absolutely no problems with pakistanis and indians invading your "space" called germany  ....after all ... they are your own race

 

:P

races divert. Unfortunately Pakistan was slimed up with the most pathetic religion that ever crawled out of a human brain.

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which suggests one of two things ... either you are no longer an indi-whatever and thus no claim to aryanism

or

like a good protestant, you are dying to start a new witch-hunt, because its sooooo long since the last one,

 

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:P

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I´m aware of that, that evry case is different. But the basic fact is, that you have a problem when you are unemployed in germany. Our job market is overheating right now. Corporations struggle to find workers. Whats the reason then for someone to be unemployed? 

 

btw i didn´t see those two weeks as being condemned. I saw it as very interesting because it confronted me with problems i never had. 

 

Believe it or not, i´m quite empathic in such things. You only have 30 minutes per case and the clock is running. I had one elderly man who was 60 years old and owned his own business. I noticed that he was deeply disturbed that he had to take the benefits. And i started to talk with him. About his business, what he does, how the market works. He told me he used all his savings to pay his two workers in the last two years. I told him that i know its hard and can understand that he feels terrible. But that he should not be ashamed. Many have the same fate and nobody judges in such a case and it really helped him. He said dozens of times thank you, when he left. I got a call from the teamleader responsible for me who asked what takes me so long and i simply said i´m new and still have to figure out how the programs work. 

 

I don´t know but i felt it was the right thing to do. I noticed how miserable he felt and i thought i can´t pull my 08/15 procedure here

 

 

good answer

 

and you have shown that the 30minute industrial robot type mentality has massive gaps in its "humanity" so to speak - something that far to many "industry , efficiency and  proficiency is everything"  idol worshipers "forget with a passion"

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Oh the ignorance! Its getting painfull.

 

The Germans are of course NOT Aryans simply because the term ARYAN does not designate a race but a class.

The origins of the word are found in Sumeria.

 

ARA: Blaze, Spark, Bright flame. Glistening, Shiny.

DARA -> DA ARA -> that which glistens, shines bright, is precious

when applied to people the Bold, Couregeous, Noble

 

Hence

The Persian DARIUS -> The Noble One

The Greek DOROS -> The Noble One

The Greek DORIANS -> The Noble Ones

The Greek DORON -> Something Precious given as a Gift

 

And without the DA (Sumerian prefix denoting That which is...)

Greek ARISTOS -> He who excels

Greek ARISTEIA -> Excelence

 

You are not born an ARYAN but you can become one. And the first step to do that is to overcome your ignorance.

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Talking about swastikas, I remember as a kid - still in elementary if I remember correctly - I had visited a museum in Greece showcasing some ancient vases from the 6th-7th centuries BC. As we were looking around I noticed that there was a swastika painted on one of the vases. I thought that I had probably seen wrong, so I went closer and noticed that the vase next to it also had a few swastikas painted on it, and then I saw more and more vases with swastikas on them.

 

I remember that the teacher had a hard time explaining where these swastikas came from  :D

 

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The Germans are of course NOT Aryans

EXACTLY

 

thats the whole point

 

as for the rest you mumbled about

 

"Aryan" (/ˈɛəriən, ˈɛərjən, ˈær-/) is a loanword derived from the Sanskrit ārya ('noble'). The term ārya was used as an ethnic self-designation by the Indo-Iranian speaking tribes in the ancient times. It was believed in the 19th century that it was also a self-designation used by all Proto-Indo-Europeans, a theory that has now been abandoned

 

so much for "class" .... if anything it had to do originally with ultra snob attitudes ...as in like ...the ancient greeks equivalent would be calling "non-aryans" :P  as barbarians

 

same thing , different approach and outlook

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which suggests one of two things ... either you are no longer an indi-whatever and thus no claim to aryanism

or

like a good protestant, you are dying to start a new witch-hunt, because its sooooo long since the last one,

 

22268882_BG1.jpg

 

:P

 

Since when has religion any influence on genetics and ancestors?

 

Simple question, you say germans are not an indo aryan ethnicity? if so you would be only person in the world that says that.

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As for the rest of this bla bla. I´m proud for my germanic ancestors. Our germanic history and culture. The things we stand for. What we achieved in the past and now. 

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Since when has religion any influence on genetics and ancestors?

 

Simple question, you say germans are not an indo aryan ethnicity? if so you would be only person in the world that says that.

refer to my previous posts ...

 

and there is no such thing as "indo aryan ethnicity" - you must be one of the few that DO think that in the world, and we all know what your background is ...so there you are .... :P

 

while we are at it, since religion has no influence on genetics and ancestors .... while all the fuss and the massive objections about the pakistanis, amongst others (indians with a different religion) coming to germany and join their fellow ethnics?

 

(omg ... :lol:  thus guy cant grasp the sarcasm aimed at him and his simplistic non- "ideology" , but insists on getting his nose out of joint over trivia of no significance)

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As for the rest of this bla bla. I´m proud for my germanic ancestors. Our germanic history and culture. The things we stand for. What we achieved in the past and now. 

 

hmmmm ..... the things you stand for, you say ..... hmmmm ....

 

last i heard .... a chain is as good as its weakest link(s) ...and last i heard they are plenty ... and no different from others .... over a period of time, law of averages and all that

 

to be proud of ones history and culture ... absolutely nothing wrong with that, and to be expected and duly supported and recognized ..... but to consistently deny one's own ugly warts at the same time. and vitriolically oppose such suggestions by anybody "outside the circle" make one often a fool in denial

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The modern ethnic Germans, as most modern Europeans, are a mix of several different cultures/races who raped, fucked and mixed with each other for centuries.

 

No point trying to pinpoint a single point of origin. If you'd like to go that far back, why stop at the Indo-European migrations and not go even further back to the migrations from Africa to the middle east?

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The modern ethnic Germans, as most modern Europeans, are a mix of several different cultures/races who raped, fucked and mixed with each other for centuries.

 

No point trying to pinpoint a single point of origin. If you'd like to go that far back, why stop at the Indo-European migrations and not go even further back to the migrations from Africa to the middle east?

 

Sucess is in our genes. No matter how bad things are. In the end we are on top. 

 

Just look in Europe today. We build an empire without even wanting it. 

 

I think it can be said that no other people decided about the fate of europe and the world more often tha germany. 

 

This started when we crushed the roman empire and continues till today. In good and bad aspects.

 

As for my own ancestors. Germans are not monolithic. We form a unit from various tribes. The tribe of my ancestors was called "Warnen". Its interesting because so many places still show signs of our old history. The city Warnemünde for example. 

 

Germanic culture is unique because it bloced roman culture and created a line that divides romanized nations and germanized nations. The germanic people were the only ones who not only defeated rome various times but also destroyed it completly later on. 

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hey! DUFUS !!!

 

in case you forget to catch a wakeup in reality ..... last century alone, the germans where destroyed by non-germans...... TWICE

and if it was not for those very non-germans .... you lot would still be .....

 

apart from the fact that just about everybody have dipped their wick in the depository of german genes throughout the ages ... just like every other "nationality"

 

ah fuck it .... why waste our time with this idiot ... its this very self righteous, "uber" arrogant, holier than though "Attila the hun" and "genghis khan"  attitudes that make sooooo many germans so unlikable ..... truly ... their "save face disease" is beyond believe and sickening to the point of .....

 

excuse me now while i go and barf

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hey! DUFUS !!!

 

in case you forget to catch a wakeup in reality ..... last century alone, the germans where destroyed by non-germans...... TWICE

and if it was not for those very non-germans .... you lot would still be .....

 

apart from the fact that just about everybody have dipped their wick in the depository of german genes throughout the ages ... just like every other "nationality"

 

ah fuck it .... why waste our time with this idiot ... its this very self righteous, "uber" arrogant, holier than though "Attila the hun" and "genghis khan"  attitudes that make sooooo many germans so unlikable ..... truly ... their "save face disease" is beyond believe and sickening to the point of .....

 

excuse me now while i go and barf

 

destroyed? Not even close. In both cases we ended up on top within a short period of time.

 

And nope we never mixed with asians...like you do. Germanic people always stayed with germanic people. We conquered the british islands and replaced the celtics aboriginals with our anglo saxon tribes. Thats why we are tall...and you well you know yourself. Midgets is the word used for you guys. You guys are almost all very small...and wear high shoes to compensate for that. Its quite funny when you see it from outside. 

 

That "unlikeable" comment is interesting though. What worth does it have to be "liked" from a non german? Zero. It has no influence on us. Does it matter if the greeks like us or not? No, its irrelevant. Because it has no effect on us in the slighest. In the end it doesn´t matter what you or any other greek say about germany. You belong to a dwarf ethnicity without any power in the world. 

 

Thats also part of the reason why we can´t find an agreement with greece and in the end just pull our plan through without any compromise.

 

Infact my economy professor compared the german - greek economic conflict with astronomy. 

 

Think about greece as a comet. A rather small, odd shaped rock. Formed from dust, frozen gas and ice. It makesits orbits far out in the oort cloud for billions of years without anyone taking notice about it. Then something disturbes it...the financial crisis and it falls towards the inner solar system...

 

In the center resides germany. The sun. A gigantic celestial object with intense gravitational pull. It creates energy and heat from itself. It combines 99,998 % of the solar system in itself. 

 

As greece falls closer the rising heat starts to heat up comet greece. The gasses and sust start to melt and shot jets of hot gas into space. Greece starts to glow and form a tail...millions of km long. It passes the planets and dominates the night sky. Tiny greece shines because the sun makes it shine. But it is a suicidal process. The closer greece gets towards the sun the more it loses material and at the end the gigantic gravitational forces rip it apart. It ends as cosmic dust. The state it has today. 

 

The sad irony is, that modern greece itself only exists because it was a pipedream of german emperors and their strange love for historic greece. They forged what is modern greece. They financed the digging at anciant greek sites and formed modern greece, educated christian turks into "wannabe" greeks and placed a german king on their top. 

The project failed. The middle eastern country could never become what germany intended it to be. 

And what we have today is the sad remnant of middle easterners who got mixed up with an ideology that 19th century germans pushed on them. 

 

But don´t be sad. We did the same in Iran, when we installed Reza Khan Pahlavi who forced our romantic view of the old persian empire on people who have no connection to it.

 

What do we have now? An islamic republic that doesn´t feel islamic and prays to old persian kings.

 

I´m sorry for that. 

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And nope we never mixed with asians...like you do. Germanic people always stayed with germanic people. We conquered the british islands and replaced the celtics aboriginals with our anglo saxon tribes. Thats why we are tall...and you well you know yourself. Midgets is the word used for you guys. You guys are almost all very small...and wear high shoes to compensate for that. Its quite funny when you see it from outside. 

 

 

Have you ever heard of a certain Attila the Hun? Google it. You'll find interesting what he and his hoards did to the Germanic people (yes, you guessed it. They did the raping, mixing etc. I mentioned earlier).

 

And yes, they were Asian...

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