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Have you ever heard of a certain Attila the Hun? Google it. You'll find interesting what he and his hoards did to the Germanic people (yes, you guessed it. They did the raping, mixing etc. I mentioned earlier).

 

And yes, they were Asian...

 

 

We killed them. We crushed them finally at the battle at the cataluanian planes. It was the only time germanic and roman armies united and erased hunnic presence in europe. They got erased from the planet. 

 

I would also like to add that germanic women have the tendency to kill unwanted children. Alot of those children created by rape can be found here today:

 

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The genetic imprint was far below 0,001%. It was common back then to send those childrens to Mother Hel. 

 

Hel in germanic mythology was similar to your greek Hades. It was totally normal to dispose such children into the Moor and you can find hundreds of them even today. We have such a Moor qute close to my hometown and so far tehy pulled 120 out of it. The acidic water holds them preserved like mummies. Also criminals and enemeis were sunk in it. 

 

That doesn´t mean racism. Germanic women and men had children with good looking roman and slavic people. But the huns were considered animals and when they were defeated most of them got annihilated and sunk into the Moor. 

 

Some here must really butthurt that we have a real identity and culture...while they were thousands of years a slave...

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Ehm, not quite. There's no pure "race" anywhere in the world, especially in Europe, the way you dream of it.

 

 

The Germanic peoples during the migrations period came into contact with other peoples; in the case of the populations settling in the territory of modern Germany, they encountered Celts to the south, and Balts and Slavs towards the east. The Limes Germanicus was breached in AD 260. Migrating Germanic tribes commingled with the local Callo-Roman populations in what is now Swabia and Bavaria. The arrival of the Huns in Europe resulted in Hun conquest of large parts of Eastern Europe, the Huns initially were allies of the Roman Empire who fought against Germanic tribes, but later the Huns cooperated with the Germanic tribe of the Ostrogoths, and large numbers of Germans lived within the lands of the Hunnic Empire of Attila. 

Attila had both Hunnic and Germanic families and prominent Germanic chiefs amongst his close entourage in Europe. The Huns living in Germanic territories in Eastern Europe adopted an East Germanic language as their lingua franca. A major part of Attila's army were Germans, during the Huns' campaign against the Roman Empire. After Attila's unexpected death the Hunnic Empire collapsed with the Huns disappearing as a people in Europe – who either escaped into Asia, or otherwise blended in amongst Europeans.

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obviously PT is high on crack... oh ...wait .... maybe steroids and living in an old world

 

maybe it got to do with his habit of smoking his gym socks wrapped in the pages of warped german alleged history books

 

but the real joke of it all ... the english, ...partially german no doubt, dont particularly like the  germans

 

guess they caught on real quick ...hell they even joke about it

 

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and talking of humor ....germans dont have any

 

if fact they are so desperate to find some, they took a british sketch

 

 

make a long winded explanation to the german viewing public ...after all...they have fuckall humor, so they needed the help

 

and then

 

 

something amazing happened: Germany fell utterly in love with it. People put down their plates of potato salad and left their frankfurters to cool; entire parties huddled around the television set. The following year, each of the regional channels showed Dinner for One at 6pm, and a few showed a repeat four hours later. Since 1963, the sketch has been screened 231 times to German audiences, making it the most repeated show on German television, and, according to the Guinness Book of World Records, the most popular show in TV history. In 2004, 15.6 million Germans watched it.

 

makes perfect sense that this dimwit cant grasp concepts as irony and sarcasm

 

but that is to be expected .... after all ...Germany is officially the world's least funny country

 

Now an international poll appears to reinforce the humourless national stereotype after concluding that Germany is the least funny country in the world.

More than 30,000 people in 15 countries were asked to rank the nations with the worst sense of humour and Germany came out on top.

 

1 Germany

2 Russia

3 Turkey

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as for PTs quesionable knowldge of history ... well that can be explained too

 

Survey: Glaring Gaps in German Knowledge of History

 

 

Only 35 percent of the 1001 Germans surveyed knew that the Federal Republic and the former GDR were formed in 1949. And despite the Second World War still being very present in the German media, only 61 percent knew it began in 1939.

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in the mean time ...whats this i hear about some german member of the european parliament suggesting refugees get shot if the try to cross the border ? any relation to PT ?

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EXACTLY

 

thats the whole point

 

as for the rest you mumbled about

 

 

so much for "class" .... if anything it had to do originally with ultra snob attitudes ...as in like ...the ancient greeks equivalent would be calling "non-aryans" :P  as barbarians

 

same thing , different approach and outlook

Loanword from sanscrit?

Don't make me laugh. I can't hear this Indo-European bullshit anymore. There is nothing INDO about the origins of the languages spoken in Europe today and they are also only marginaly European.

 

Yeaj I've heard "The Sansctit Loanword" theory before. The problem with it is: Sanscrit didn't even exist 2500 years ago. The oldest Sanscrit epigraphy dates from the 3td century BCE. Mycenean Greek epigraphy, in the form of Linear B, on the other hand documents the use of the Greek language as early as the 13th century BCE. Hittite inscriptions, in Cuneiform, go as far back as the 16th century BCE. So please explain how it can be that the Proto European languages, aka Mycenean and Hittite, borrowed from Sanscrit while predating it for at least 1000 years?

 

Enaough of the Indo-European nonsense. All European languages spoken today originate in the Southern Balkans and Anatolia. That's the only thesis that the factual evidence permits.

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calm your horses dude

 

i concur with you. we simply are saying that the word aryan is of Sanskrit origin ....that is ALL

 

which is one of the reasons why i said EXACTLY to your post

 

i dont know about all the other languages enough to say .... but i do know enough of one of the theories that suggest cuacasus/asia minor might be the source  ...though one might suggest ...."and before that?"

this indo-european thing came out of what ? similarities between languages and relationships ... sort of like ...the elephant is related to the rodent but not the hippo

 

as for the greek language....i have often hinted in the past about those guys west of the hittites and who where a pain in the ass to the hittites, the ahhiyawa ...though many scolars reckon that they where actually Mycenaean, or rather Achaean outposts ...(thus the similarity of the words)....where first? probably Mycenaean.. - he hittites probably though .... you know...those guys from the west

 

before that nobody really knows for sure and theories galore. ditto for the later variations like the dorians ... but probably from somewhere up north.... before that ... like i said ...theories galore

 

but it would be interesting to find out from you what you mean by "the only thesis that the factual evidence permits" that prove that everybody came from anatolia.

 

somewhere along the line probably ... i mean IF we all came from africa, "We" would have to go past asia minor first, because the last i heard, the ancients hadnt quite harnessed flight ...well.... at least not  until apollo came onto the scene. but by then the indians had already discovered magic carpets ...thus the whole indo-european thing

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at this stage i better add :P  to the last bit, because some tosser might not get the element of humor and take what i said at face value and being serious

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Ehm, not quite. There's no pure "race" anywhere in the world, especially in Europe, the way you dream of it.

you dont get it. Its not a genetic thing. Its a cultural thing. Germanic ancestry, power and dominance. I'm blonde and habe blue eyes, southern germans often have dark hair because mixing with roman women. Thats totally fine. The cultural identity is superior to any other and thats what makes us sucessful. A powerful culture, history and identity. Something you lack.

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in the mean time ...whats this i hear about some german member of the european parliament suggesting refugees get shot if the try to cross the border ? any relation to PT ?

thats in line of law and even allowed by our constitution. It says boarders can be defended with weapons.

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you dont get it. Its not a genetic thing. Its a cultural thing. Germanic ancestry, power and dominance. I'm blonde and habe blue eyes, southern germans often have dark hair because mixing with roman women.

 

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like the french and roman and god knows who else men didnt pork the living daylights of the blonde women in bondage from further up north

 

and talking about blond

 

i took a look at the cancellors of germany .....

 

gerhard schroeder..... a darkie

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Willy_Brandt ..... a darkie

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helmut schmidt .... a darkie

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Helmut Kohl .... a darkie

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Angela Merkel .... a darkie (these days desperate to have more fun)

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what the hell happened to the superior race of blondes?

 

oh i know

 

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You stil don´t get it. But its ok. Your degeneration and weakness as an ethnicity comes mostly from your rotten culture. while ours is pushed on power and sucess. 

 

I´m quite happy to have blue eyes and to be dark blonde. Girls love it. :) Its unusual in most parts of the world and gives a massive advantage. 

 

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As i said, to be pure would mean degeneration. What makes us german is development and the will for power and dominance. Something your people totally lost 2500 years ago. 

 

Your small size doesn´t help much either. There is no "german race". But german ethnicity and it happenes to be the best in the world. We win, you lose. Its the normal way of things.

 

As for the romans, nope they never made it here. Remember, we crushed and killed them. But we did mix with their women. Its known that germans raided roman cities killed all males including the children and took the women.

 

Greek women would be safe, we don´t like unibrows. 

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my bad! it was the celts, huns and the mogals and god knows who else and romans never touched german women, and Caesar never massacred german civilians. never never never

 

 

Cologne was founded in 37 or 19 BCE, when the Romans transferred the Ubians from the east bank of the Rhine to the west bank, which was almost empty since the wars of Julius Caesar, who had exterminated the Eburones. The new town was called Ara Ubiorum, "altar of the Ubians", which indicates that there was a shrine for the emperor cult. The Roman author Suetonius tells that among the objects kept in this temple was Caesar's sword.

 

 

In the spring of 55 BCE, Julius Caesar's soldiers attacked a large group of Germanic refugees during an armistice. Many people, belonging to the tribes of the Usipetes and Tencteri, were massacred (text). The Roman Senate discussed this shameful behavior, and Caesar dediced to divert the Senate's attention. During the early summer, he crossed the Rhine and invaded Germania;

 

fuuuuuck!!!

you still dont get it.

 

anybody who makes it a big deal that they are blonde makes them a dumbass, and worthy of blond jokes

 

anybody that takes stupid "positions", with even more stupid arguments, in a topic, any topic, is an idiot and not worthy of being taken seriously

 

on anything

 

but its amusing your insistent use of the word "crush" when germans "did" it (quote unquote) ...but never admit it the other way round

 

must have something to do with vacuum packed brain cells

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my bad! it was the celts, huns and the mogals and god knows who else and romans never touched german women, and Caesar never massacred german civilians. never never never

 

 

 

fuuuuuck!!!

you still dont get it.

 

anybody who makes it a big deal that they are blonde makes them a dumbass, and worthy of blond jokes

 

anybody that takes stupid "positions", with even more stupid arguments, in a topic, any topic, is an idiot and not worthy of being taken seriously

 

on anything

 

but its amusing your insistent use of the word "crush" when germans "did" it (quote unquote) ...but never admit it the other way round

 

must have something to do with vacuum packed brain cells

 

 

It has to do with reality. Sure Cesar crossed the rhine. Cesar was a conquerer. His goal was to colonize germany completly and make it part of rome. He failed completly. He stopped the attempt. And yes Cesar murdered civilians, women and children in several massacres west of the rhine. 

 

The romans encountered something in germania they never encountered before, women in the front lines and an enemy that didn´t negotiate but fought to the death. 

 

Cesars sucessor Augustus ordered his most loyal general Varus to conquer germany. Varus started a full operation against germans and that led to one of the most importat battles in humanities history. The first time in history a complete roman army got destroyed, annihilated. The germanic leader Herrmann oder Arminius how he was caleld has a gigantic memorial in germany because of that:

 

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It changed the course of history and shapes europe till today. It created a barrier between romanized west and south and germanized central and east europe. The expansion of rome was stopped. 

 

Rome gave up its attempt to conquer germany and tried to hold at least the status quo. They build a bullwark at their boarder. Called the Limes, to hold the germans away

 

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But over time the Limes got overrun and the germans started to flood into rome. They were considered the best warriors and the roman emperor chose germans as his honor guard for their strength and loyality. But in the end it was futile, as germans finally sacked rome and ended the roman empire, creating their own and dominate europe even today unrivalled. :)

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You realize that this battle happened in 9 AD and the Roman Empire lasted (undivided) until around 300 AD.  :)  with the western Roman empire going on for another 200 years until around 500 AD. 

 

So you're basically saying that the Roman army was destroyed after this great victory of Arminius in 9 AD yet the Roman Empire lasted - unrivaled - for another 500 years.  :D

 

And another tidbit of information from Wikipedia:

 

 

 

During the unification of Germany in the 19th century, Arminius became hailed by nationalists as a symbol of German unity and freedom. Following World War II however, schools often shunned the topic since it had become associated with the militant nationalism of the Third Reich, and many modern Germans don't know about Arminius.

 

Just saying...

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After the death of Augustus in AD 14, the Senate appointed Germanicus commander of the forces in Germania Inferior. A short time after, the legions rioted on the news that their recruitments would not be marked back down to 16 years from the then standard 20. Refusing to accept this, the rebel soldiers cried for Germanicus as emperor. Germanicus put down this rebellion himself, preferring to continue only as a general. In a bid to secure the loyalty of his troops and his own popularity with them and with the Roman people, he led them on a raid against the Marsi, a Germanic people on the upper Ruhr river. Germanicus massacred the men, women, and children of the Marsi that he and his forces encountered and recovered one of the three legions' Eagle standards.

 

During the next two years, he led his 8-legion army into Germania against a coalition led by Arminius, which had successfully overthrown Roman rule in a rebellion in 9 AD. In 14 AD, his legions routed and destroyed most of the Bructeri and recovered the lost Eagle of the 19th Legion during a raid. His major success was the capture of Arminius' pregnant wife Thusnelda in May 15, her father Segestes gave her to him. He let Arminius' wife sleep in his quarters during the whole of the time she was a prisoner. He said, "They are women and they must be respected, for they will be citizens of Rome soon". He was able to devastate large areas and eliminate any form of active resistance, but the majority of the Germanic peoples he encountered fled at the sight of the Roman army into remote forests. The raids were considered a success since the major goal of destroying any rebel alliance networks was completed.

 

like some people think that you win a battle, you have won the war

 

fact is germania , at the time, for all practical purposes had fuckall to offer... just a shit load of forests, and some pipsqueek villages, and pretty much nothing else. plus in effect the germans where are a whole lot of tribes constantly bickering with each other. by getting involved it gave an opportunity for them to get their shit together via Arminius,

 

so ... catching onto that concept,

 

eventually, the emperor Tiberius recalled his nephew Germanicus and decided to leave the Germans to their own discord this is exactly what the Romans would repeat later in northern England/Caledonia, where they decided that further conquests of hostile territory and peoples were not worth the effort, and just pulled up a wall (the limes in case of Germania, Hadrian's wall in England) to guard the frontier.

 

i guess the scots where a pain in the ass or the romans as well ... soooo much better to build a stone wall to keep them back, as opposed to the limes in germany made of wood

 

which implies what exactly? :P

 

as for Arminius

 

trained as a Roman military commander. He had lived in Rome as a hostage in his youth, where he had received a military education, and obtained Roman citizenship as well as the status of equestrian (petty noble)

in other words .... rome was cheated by its own citizen

 

jeez ...germans have been cheating since then? :P

 

and guess who killed him ? germans of course .Duh! stating the obvious

 

but ultimately .....

 

 

The Romans were able to "conquer" large parts of Germania, briefly. They were unable to HOLD it for any length of time.

 

The reason stemmed from the region's "backwardness." There was no central government or central power through which the Romans could operate. There were no cities (except the ones the Romans built). There were few roads, and the country was broken up by large forests, through which it was difficult to "project" power.

 

Hence, the Romans would have to control the country on a tribe-by-tribe, village by village basis if they could do so at all. That is a tough exercise. (The most recent modern example is the United States in Vietnam.)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAQqIcBamhs&feature=youtu.be&t=39m3s

 

as the documentary suggests ....

 

 

The Germanic tribes, although being quite capable fighters didn't have enough to offer the Romans. The area was poor and difficult and dangerous to travel, like the massacre of 9.AD. proved.

 

So the most beneficial activity for the Romans was to just apply divide and conquer upon it to keep them divided and weak, and at that just stay out of there.

 

It's not that they weren't able to. Had the Roman empire taken on the task with full force to take over Germania they pretty surely would have succeeded. But just conquering for the sole purpose of conquering isn't what matters really are about. It's about economic interest, you have to benefit more from the conquest, all variables taken into account, than what the conquest costs.

 

take note of how the documentary ends .....

"today they still sing his praises among the barbarian people"

 

hahahaha  - sounds awfully familiar about somebody we wont mention

 

but seriously ... and quite rightly so ... the vid says... "it doesnt minimize his achievement, challenging and defeating rome at her peak" ... it also points out that it took centuries ... CENTURIES ... before they managed to get strong enough to conquer rome ....who by that time for all practical purposes had fizzled out to "we where once mighty and glorious but now we are nothing worth while" ..... BECAUSE of civil war, which wipped out so many roman soldiers

 

for all intents and purposes ...by then ...what was once almighty rome was no longer rome at all, not even by a long shot

 

the continuation ...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBHahcN68Jg

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJNuUnRDaas

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Evryone in germany knows about Armenius and the battle. Its part of school education. We had it in the 8th class and there are non stop documentations about it in the ZDF. So spare me the nonsense. Crushing the roman army and blocking further acess for them into germany chanhed europes history gor a better. mediterranean decadency, weakness and degeneration were not able to get a hold in large parts of europe. ultimately it also blocked islam and guaranteed the concept of loyality and freedom. german law was based on equalness while roman system was a slave holder society.

 

We wouldnt rule europe today if we had not won this battle.

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you are smoking high octane pot again, we see

 

:P

 

Why? Because i say how it is? Mediterranean culture is inferior, based on laziness and complete lack of competition. Spain and italy are prime examples for that. Greece even more so, because its arabisation made it even more weak.

 

I see it as our mission to civilize europe in a way that it can compete in a global world. And we do so with great effort. 

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Why? Because i say how it is? Mediterranean culture is inferior, based on laziness and complete lack of competition. Spain and italy are prime examples for that. Greece even more so, because its arabisation made it even more weak.

 

I see it as our mission to civilize europe in a way that it can compete in a global world. And we do so with great effort.

 

hahahahahaha

 

eternally pathetic as always

 

you are like a broken record on a record player, and too fucking lazy to sort it out yourself

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Evryone in germany knows about Armenius and the battle. Its part of school education. We had it in the 8th class and there are non stop documentations about it in the ZDF. So spare me the nonsense. Crushing the roman army and blocking further acess for them into germany chanhed europes history gor a better. mediterranean decadency, weakness and degeneration were not able to get a hold in large parts of europe. ultimately it also blocked islam and guaranteed the concept of loyality and freedom. german law was based on equalness while roman system was a slave holder society.

 

We wouldnt rule europe today if we had not won this battle.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Germany is on her way out of history.

Median age of the German population is 47. If you exclude foreign born the median age of native Germans is 48.5

You seem to be in your mid 20's so by the time you are 50 years old the majority of the working age people in Germany will be foreign born and I doubt they will give a rats ass about Arminius (with an I btw and not Armenius with an E). Germany is among the fastest degenerating societies in Europe which makes it seem doubtfull that she is the one to rid Europe from what you call "Mediterranean decadency, weakness and degeneration".

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This is an interesting piece of info, if it's indeed true (which I don't doubt it is, as this is the norm throughout Europe).

 

We're looking then at a society (if we see Europe as a whole) which is slowly aging and doesn't reproduce enough. On the other hand, we have a huge influx of people mainly from Asia and the middle East who reproduce like rabbits. It won't take long (possibly a couple of generations if this trend continues) before their numbers are significant enough to elect their own people in power and decide the fate of Europe.

 

In many cases change is inevitable and welcome in order to breath new life in an aging and stagnant society. It's not only Europe which is changing though. It's the whole world which is turning upside down. I guess the challenge Europeans will be facing shortly is how they need to deal with the 2nd generation of those African, middle Eastern or other immigrants who are flooding Europe today.

 

If they continue marginalizing this people as they do today (and have been doing for decades...) then they'll be creating generations of people who will not be embracing the European culture and way of life. There's a need for a major re-thinking of how European nations deal with the immigrants and refugees, and most importantly how their deal with the children of this people.

 

Educating these kids and taking them out of the middle ages and into the modern era should be the highest priority for the European community. Failure to do this will have dire consequences for Europe. 

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και γι΄ αυτό λέω πάντα .... γαμάτε, παιδια, διότι χανόμαστε!!! :)

 

αλλα στο πιό σοβαρό ... έχει παρατηρήσει κανεις ... οτι εκείνοι που πολαπλισιάζονται σα κατσαρίδες .... τις γυναίκες τους τις έχουν σα άτομα "2ης κατηγορίας" και καταπιεσμένες και διακαιώματα  μηδέν και άξιες μόνο για σκλαβοπάζαρα, που λέει ο λόγος

 

απ΄την άλλη ...αυτοί οι λαοί που σιγά σιγά πρακτικά "αυτοκτονούνε" έχουν πήξει με γυναίκες που "καριέρα" είναι ο στόχος και παιδιά ...άσε ...αργότερα ...και όταν και αν μας καυλώσει .... και η δικαιολογία πάντα είναι ...τα παιδιά κοστίζουν κλπ κλπ κλπ

 

πάντως σε αυτη την κανηγορία γυναικών (και ανδρών) που προσπαθούν να μου πουλήσουν κατι αδέσποτες αρλούμπες με  δικαιολογίες σαν το παραπάνω τους λέω .... "αρχίδια καλαβρέζικα και δυό αυγά τουρκίας - τα παιδια ανέκαθεν και πάντοτε και αιωνίως κοστίζουνε"

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I think the reason behind Europeans not having enough kids is much more complicated. It's not just a matter of money. If this were the case then many African families who live with one dollar/day would not even dare thinking about children  :D .

 

There's more to it than the fact that kids are expensive to raise or that in our modern societies many women want to have careers so having kids is not a priority anymore.

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let me explain it for you in a different way

 

in europe/west ... retirement funds are provided by the state

to the third world people .... children ARE the retirement funds

 

we are talking about a different mind set

 

and yes.... i agree with what you said... its NOT about money ... but the truth, the real truth, is that money is the excuse just about everybody throws about with abandon ...but havent got the guts to admit that they throw incredibly feeble excuses to justify themselves. and its not only the women either - same bullshit comes from mens mouths just as often. you dont want kids, fine...sure might be difficult to swallow for the parents and grandparents and their shall we call it egos, that want their legacy to continue in one way or another, and of course have to accept it because they really have no real say in the matter , no matter how much they nag ..... but when bullshit is thrown about, i like to throw it straight back in their faces ...which makes me an unliked person sometimes --- to which i say ...στα αρχιδια μου ... i prefer to call a spade a spade

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I miss out on what Eyoismos said in Greek, but if the issue is why European or North American countries have few children, then in my opinion, it is because of many reasons, some of which Eyoismos and Admin have said:

 

1) women want to have careers so they delay having children,

2) it costs a lot of money to provide properly for the children so an average family can't afford to have many,

3) the more educated and well-to-do you are, the less kids people seem to have, that is why in Africa or India, they have so many,

4) the state provides for pensions and medicare in old age,

5) families are smaller so there is nobody to take care of the children, you have to put them in daycare which costs money, 

6) maybe people just want to be able to enjoy life and not have responsibilities of a child, be able to move and travel easily, have more material things, etc. - which is perfectly fine, don't have a child if you don't want to take care of him.

 

Recently, in China, they propose to allow couples to have two children to reverse the male bias in the population. However, people do not seem to want to rush to make the second children, some say it is too much trouble, it costs too much, etc. Interesting. 

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και γι΄ αυτό λέω πάντα .... γαμάτε, παιδια, διότι χανόμαστε!!! :)

 

αλλα στο πιό σοβαρό ... έχει παρατηρήσει κανεις ... οτι εκείνοι που πολαπλισιάζονται σα κατσαρίδες .... τις γυναίκες τους τις έχουν σα άτομα "2ης κατηγορίας" και καταπιεσμένες και διακαιώματα  μηδέν και άξιες μόνο για σκλαβοπάζαρα, που λέει ο λόγος

 

απ΄την άλλη ...αυτοί οι λαοί που σιγά σιγά πρακτικά "αυτοκτονούνε" έχουν πήξει με γυναίκες που "καριέρα" είναι ο στόχος και παιδιά ...άσε ...αργότερα ...και όταν και αν μας καυλώσει .... και η δικαιολογία πάντα είναι ...τα παιδιά κοστίζουν κλπ κλπ κλπ

 

πάντως σε αυτη την κανηγορία γυναικών (και ανδρών) που προσπαθούν να μου πουλήσουν κατι αδέσποτες αρλούμπες με  δικαιολογίες σαν το παραπάνω τους λέω .... "αρχίδια καλαβρέζικα και δυό αυγά τουρκίας - τα παιδια ανέκαθεν και πάντοτε και αιωνίως κοστίζουνε"

Your advice comes a bit too let the γαμάτε, παιδια, διότι χανόμαστε ain't gonna fix it. Lets face it, with a female population that ages on average beyond the mid 40's we have a rather disturbingly low reproductive potential. Demographic trends can not be reversed on the dime and societies that have experienced below 1.7 births/woman for decades are already past the point of no return. The Demographic colapse of the native European populations is already irreversible.

 

Funny thing. I had a chat with one of my friends in Germany the other day and he was saying that he feels some satisfaction at the thought that the German feminist icon Alice Schwarzer will have to rely on children of the reemerging Bronze Age Patriarchat in her old days. And I can't deny that I find the thought amusing as well.

 

Anyhow, feminism, and I mean legitimate feminism and not feminazi bullshit, is of course not the reason for the demographic decline of Europe. The root cause is the culture of "Instant Gratification" that emerges in every wealthy society. People have pipe dreams to chase, things to buy, trips to take, prince charming and princess cutiepie to meet. And before they know it their are past 40 and live with their cats. That doesn't leave much time for kids. They just get in the way of "Expectations".

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This is an interesting piece of info, if it's indeed true (which I don't doubt it is, as this is the norm throughout Europe).

 

We're looking then at a society (if we see Europe as a whole) which is slowly aging and doesn't reproduce enough. On the other hand, we have a huge influx of people mainly from Asia and the middle East who reproduce like rabbits. It won't take long (possibly a couple of generations if this trend continues) before their numbers are significant enough to elect their own people in power and decide the fate of Europe.

 

In many cases change is inevitable and welcome in order to breath new life in an aging and stagnant society. It's not only Europe which is changing though. It's the whole world which is turning upside down. I guess the challenge Europeans will be facing shortly is how they need to deal with the 2nd generation of those African, middle Eastern or other immigrants who are flooding Europe today.

 

If they continue marginalizing this people as they do today (and have been doing for decades...) then they'll be creating generations of people who will not be embracing the European culture and way of life. There's a need for a major re-thinking of how European nations deal with the immigrants and refugees, and most importantly how their deal with the children of this people.

 

Educating these kids and taking them out of the middle ages and into the modern era should be the highest priority for the European community. Failure to do this will have dire consequences for Europe.

You are operating under false assumptions. The change is of course inevitable but there is no breath of new life. European population will be replaced. And that will go hand in hand with the displacement of European culture and its replacement with whatever will emerge as the new dominant culture. Europe is gonna become Islamic and it will be populated by an Afro-Eurasian mix of Muslims in the not so distant future.

 

Now Europeans, conservatives and progressives, live under the assumption that all those people coming in are dying to adopt European-Western Capitalism. This is just not the case. The people coming in are entrenched in their own culture. They look for economic opportunity and nothing more. Culturaly they despise Europe. And to be honest rightfully so.

 

So the question if and to what degree Europe is going to Integrate or marginalize those people has become irrelevant in the face of the demographic realities. You should rather ask to what degree the new foreign born muslim working class of Europe is gonna tolerate some old Euro dotards.

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I was of course joking about that γαμάτε ρε bit, and i am sure you realize this

 

and your last paragraph says it all. i couldn't agree more

 

Anyhow, feminism, and I mean legitimate feminism and not feminazi bullshit, is off cause not the reason for the demographic decline of Europe. The root cause is the culture of "Instant Gratification" that emerges in every wealthy society. People have pipe dreams to chase, things to buy, trips to take, prince charming and princess cutiepie to meet. And before they know it their are past 40 and live with their cats. That doesn't leave much time for kids. They just get in the way of "Expectations".

 

look it it this way .... all the fairy tales have the happy ever after with the prince and the babe and a half...but who the fuck knows anything about "snow white" having kids of her own after the wedding bliss ...and the shit they got up to?

 

personally i think she had orgies with all those dwarfs, and having a blast with all that fun ... before she got all politically correct, and decided to do the "right thing" and let the snob factor of self righteousness kick in....which in a lot of ways ....well ..... look at "today" ...and tell me otherwise   :P

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