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This is too much. I am crying and I am sure all of you Greeks will cry also. So much humanity in front of so much inhumanity, yes, only the Greeks are capable of.

 

http://www.pappaspost.com/swede-testimony-distomo/

 

An older article but still good read - When the past is not past:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-alexander-meyers/towards-a-fourth-reich-a_b_7788642.html

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Guest PatrickT

This is too much. I am crying and I am sure all of you Greeks will cry also. So much humanity in front of so much inhumanity, yes, only the Greeks are capable of.

 

http://www.pappaspost.com/swede-testimony-distomo/

 

An older article but still good read - When the past is not past:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-alexander-meyers/towards-a-fourth-reich-a_b_7788642.html

you showed much humanity in your civil war lol

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Guest FriendofGreece

Apart from Nazi, Octoberfest, I know only another German word. From wiki:

 

"Schadenfreude (/ˈʃɑːdənfrɔɪd/German: [ˈʃaːdn̩ˌfʁɔʏdə] (13px-Speaker_Icon.svg.png listen)), also known as epicaricacy/ˌɛpɨˈkærɨkəsi/ is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.[1] This word is taken from German and literally means "harm-joy". It is the feeling of joy or pleasure when one sees another fail or suffer misfortune. It is also borrowed by some other languages. An English term of similar meaning (but with no noun equivalent) is "to gloat"; which means to feel, or express, great, often malicious, pleasure, or self-satisfaction, at one's own success, or at another's failure.[2]"

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Guest PatrickT

war is war. War is horrible. Germany suffered horrible in the 30 year war, where sweden and france, austria fought on german land. Some areas were almost completly depopulated. Nobody was left alive in the city of Magdeburg for example. In many areas up to 30% of people were killed. 

 

Yet you don´t see me running around and claiming how horrible sweden is. 

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war is war. War is horrible. Germany suffered horrible in the 30 year war, where sweden and france, austria fought on german land. Some areas were almost completly depopulated. Nobody was left alive in the city of Magdeburg for example. In many areas up to 30% of people were killed. 

 

Yet you don´t see me running around and claiming how horrible sweden is. 

 

do you even know your own history?

magdeburg was sacked by the germans and the catholics

 

apart form the fact that is totally moronic to compare the middle ages with some thing that happened only 70+ years ago, a time period that the fully allows many to remember all to well

 

and in answer to the last piece of gold you came up with ... if you lived 70+ after the fact, and you where a catholic germanic, you would be bitching like a stuck pig . if you where a protestant germanic  ... not  so much - after all sweden was magdeburg's "buddy"

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Guest PatrickT

We all know greeks give a shit about WW II. They tried to use it to weaken our position in the debt crisis. It failed and we dodged it.

 

 

You wont get any money out of this. Accept that and move on.

 

Or maybe send the bill to the italians next time. Maybe they will pay, because we won't. We live in 2015. If you believe any young german will take responsibility for things that happened long before his birth, then you are wrong.

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Guest PatrickT

you have just shown that you know jack shit about your own history .....

 

and you want us to believe all the rest of the crap that is coming out of that orifice you call a mouth?

 

wow !

 

what a loser and a moron to boot

 

 

What was it what i said was wrong? I said Magdeburg was destroyed in the 30 years war. Which was a fact. I did not say sweden destroyed it. I said Sweden was one of the war parties. Beside that their soldiers were the worst and sacked evrything no matter if friend or foe. But maybe your ageing deluded brain is incapable to understand basic english. 

 

And funny you would call me a loser.

 

I´m young, strong and have a great job. Beside that i belong to the nation state that owns and ominates europe.

 

And you?..You are on the bottom...social and from ethnicity as well. 

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On a sidenote, my great grandfather (father of my grandfather, i hope i used the right english word) was in Thessaloniki in that time. He was a Pilot and did usually fly high ranking officials with the FW-200 "Condor" to various european destinations. He said he did fly the norwegian ambassador to Thessaloniki back then and also stayed a few days there. They currently restaurate such an aircraft at Lufthansa

 

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Guest FriendofGreece

800,000 civilian Greeks dead:

 

“Greece lost 13% of its population during the WWII. One part was lost in the battlefield, but the largest part due to famine and the Nazis’ atrocities.”

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/greece-releases-rare-footage-of-german-nazi-invasion/5442720

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When the crimes committed by the Nazis in WWII still impact the lives of those who live after WWII:

 

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/03/31/argyris-sfoundouris-the-man-who-reminded-germany-the-nazi-crimes-at-distomo/

 

Distomo - the pictures and the skulls:

 

http://www.pappaspost.com/haunting-images-from-the-june-1944-nazi-massacre-at-distomo/

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Guest eyoismos

What was it what i said was wrong? I said Magdeburg was destroyed in the 30 years war. Which was a fact. I did not say sweden destroyed it. I said Sweden was one of the war parties. Beside that their soldiers were the worst and sacked evrything no matter if friend or foe. But maybe your ageing deluded brain is incapable to understand basic english. 

 

And funny you would call me a loser.

 

I´m young, strong and have a great job. Beside that i belong to the nation state that owns and ominates europe.

 

And you?..You are on the bottom...social and from ethnicity as well.

its amazing how this guy does sidesteps like he just got himself barefoot on hot coals

 

ok ... i give .... who did not read this statement "Yet you don´t see me running around and claiming how horrible sweden is. " as a "sideswipe" against sweden of that era ? (and its not the first time either - or that its even comparable to talk about what happened centuries ago with a time frame that people are still alive today)

 

FACT: the holy roman empire, read Germans,  stormed the city of Magdeburg and committed a massacre

FACT: The vast majority of the mercenaries fighting for the swedes, where.... that's right,,, Germans

FACT: Magdeburg, read  Germans, aligned themselves with the swedes hoping to protect their ass

FACT: when mercenaries, read  Germans (in this case) dont get paid, they go for the spoils of war, ...(and of course some of the current crop imply blame on the swedes)

FACT:  the armies of the Holy Roman emperor included a mix of Hungarians, Croats, Spaniards, Poles, Italians, Frenchmen, Germans, and others

FACT: This violent wave of witch-hunting first erupted in the territories of Franconia following the first phase of the war. However, the hardship and turmoil the conflict had produced among the general population enabled the hysteria to spread quickly to other parts of Germany. AND undertaken of course, by , you guessed it ... Germans

FACT: that all happened like 6 centuries ago

FACT: WW2 only happened 70+ years ago ...and far more "civilized an era"

 

and then we have the nazis ....and the atrocities they committed ...EVERYWHERE ...and especially in greece where they went pretty much nuts .... and funny enough Germans ... and yes they AGAIN went on vindictive witch-hunting, 1940's style

 

i dont know ...must be something in their culture ... and they way they handled the greek crisis with almost the glee of a vulture in paroxysm ..somehow fits the bill  .... especially when this dumbass said "greeks starve and we laugh" (which he subsequently deleted to save himself stupidly that he would avoid the scorn he deserves ...and changed it to something else more politically correct)

 

but give credit where credit is due ... by this git saying that the youth of germany should not pay for the sins of their forefathers, logic dictates the youth of greece should not pay the debts incurred by their forefathers and germany go fuck itself

 

jesus! somebody find me an intelligent german, read any german, hell, even a german amoeba would do , who can at least talk sense and be logical, and who can compare apples with apples and not with chalk

 

cause i am yawning with boredom with this moron. The best this moron can come up with is challenge with the basis of ones age

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The story of the Goth refugees and the snakes that bite the hand that fed them:

 

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/21705-western-roman-empire-overwhelmed-by-immigrants

 

"In spite of the tendency of historians to ascribe blame for the Gothic War on Roman incompetence, the fact remains that the Goths showed callous disrespect for their Roman hosts, commencing their pillaging almost immediately. They displayed no inclination to honor their promises to be subject to Roman laws nor to submit to Roman military authority. They showed no gratitude to Roman authorities for taking them in in their hour of need. Instead of allying themselves with the Romans against a common enemy, they took advantage of the weakness of their hosts to seize land and property. A significant number of them entered Roman territory without permission."

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as if to confirm my allegation, .... i read in spiegel international online today ....
 
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/a-1059357.html
 

Germany these days, it seems, is a place where people feel entirely uninhibited about expressing their hatred and xenophobia. Images from around the country show a level of brutalization that hasn't been witnessed for some time, and attest to primitive instincts long believed to have been relegated to the past in Germany.

 
wow ! i guess i was not that off with my estimation of the german psyche

 

sounds awfully like the dickwad that has infested our website, doesnt it

 

from the same article ....

 

 

Within the SPD, it is General Secretary Yasmin Fahimi, whose father is Iranian. "Open the doors to the showers, fire up the ovens. They're going to be needed," read one recent anonymous mail addressed to her.

 

there you are ... the inheritants of the nazi world, the german youth of today

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Your racism against germans and german ethnicity is not even shocking anymore. 

 

What do you want? It was a war. War is brutal and people suffer. Its our duty to prevent wars and don´t allow such things to happen again. 

 

But if you expect us to fall on our kneesinfront greeks and beg for forgiveness, then you are mistaken. I don´t feel sorry for what happened back then. I´m not related with it and don´t feel responsible.

 

And you say greece should not pay back its debt to germany? What debt? We gave only guarantees and no real money. So far greece sends us real money and the only thing it gets so far is our good name.

 

Greece is far too small to push its own interests through the ring. Tsipras learned it the hard way this summer, when he tried to push us into a corner and got smashed. Diplomacy is a power game. And as you saw germany was able to throttle greece into a state where its pensioners had to stand infront closed banks. 

 

We have to deal with the refugee crisis now and made a special law that comes into effect today. Military transporters send the refugees back where they came from. The EU boarder will be secured and so on.

 

I think its in greece best interest to be part of a solution and not part of the problem. As far as i know greece suffers extremly at the moment. Even more so the greek islands. 

 

When i was in greece last summer i was not arrogant or evil towards the greeks i meet. And i´m not only talking about our greek sherpa and translator. I was always acting respectful and calm. I know how hard situation must be for local authorities. 

 

Our translator even gave me the advice to do 4 eye meetings with local authorities, so we can find a common solution, proposals and so on and he presents it to his state employee alone. Because it would have a devastating effect for an 55 year old office boss to get orders from a german in his early 20th and would undermine his renomee. I understood this and was respectful in such matters.

 

I think you have a totally distorted view on me, my people and my country. 

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I think you have a totally distorted view on me, my people and my country. 

 

i know exactly what you are you fucking dummkopf, and the fact that you insist and persist on being here on this forum like a troll on steroids, continously broadcasting bullshit from your ass,  only confirms it

 

like i said

 

 

jesus! somebody find me an intelligent german, read any german, ...hell, even a german amoeba would do , who can at least talk sense and be logical, and who can compare apples with apples and not with chalk

 

so much for your alleged racism against germans and germany.

nothing could be further than the truth....dumbass nazi infected toe-jam

 

as for that bit about ...

 

i was not arrogant or evil towards the greeks i meet

as opposed to here on this forum, right?

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but then you are so fucking stupid, that you think that by contentiously rubbing tsipra in our face, you have captured what greeks and greece is about. well guess what fuckhead..... 65% DIDNT vote for  him, and those that did, most are from the old socialist party that pretty much went belly up, and who are dead against anything right of centre

 

you havent a fucking clue

 

so do us all a favor and bugger off , or catch a frigging wakeup, bitchslap yourself in the face  and stay

 

your choice

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Guest PatrickT

Funny you would call me stupid and dumb. I would not be able to do what i do if i would be stupid. You may dislike my opinion, that doesn´t change tha fact that i´m intelligent. 

 

Basic fact was, that greece lived far over its budget for years. Its living standards were artificial rised to a unsustainable level. 

 

When the bubble burst, greece insisted that its high living standard must be sustained by german tax money. Greece can do better than to be a parasite. What you have now is the painful but necessary process of downgrading the living standard on the normal level. 

 

You label me a Nazi because what exactly? Because i put german interests infront others? Thats called patriotism. I stand for my people. Evry deal made must be for the benefits of germany. 

 

Mistakes were done. I don´t denie that. Evryone does mistakes. 

 

But at the end of the day our nations have to work with each other. There are many problems we need to solve. The biggest one right now is the refugee crisis. 

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do you even remember a quarter of what you barked here, on a greek forum of all places,  with such impunity , you insolent pup?

 

seriously, if this was a german forum and any of us behaved they way you have, we would have been banned for life within the first dozen posts alone

 

though , in a way its understandable ... by your own admittance, you suffer from a "save face" disease

 

and dont think for one minute i cannot justify my "labels" of you

 

the fact that you are still here and posting ,only tells you how much more tolerant we are .... even if we react with anger OR amusement and of course you misunderstood and misinterpret, and thoughtlessly carried on and on and on

 

when you are a guest, behave as a guest, to continue having the respect and hospitality that we greeks pride ourselves with. ELSE endure the consequences

 

plain and simple

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