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Anemos
Posted on: July 19th, 2010, 12:13am Quote Report to Moderator
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The Greek, and by extension, the European economies are facing difficult times. The Greek political situation has followed suit, with political parties facing the impossible task of sacrificing people’s hard earned finances for the good of the economy. This article is not about judging the politicians who have pocketed millions while in office, creating public service positions by the tens of thousands in order to secure votes in elections.

Mass media, typically regarded as the fourth estate, are in their majority not serving as watchdogs of the political bodies, but disappointingly all too often find themselves accomplices by non-coverage or over-coverage of specific issues. Indeed, the traditional gatekeepers of information have become fewer as mergers and acquisitions of mass media by media groups has become the norm. With fewer gatekeepers, and in some cases, a near dictatorial approach to deciding what receives extensive coverage and what gets buried, Media have allowed for a new estate: The fifth estate.


The fifth estate has manifested most obviously in Greece.

One blog, which is based on openness of information has become the most popular website in Greece, receiving millions of visitors each day. The blog, is only outvisited by Google, Facebook, Youtube, Yahoo, and Blogger.


In terms of information, this blog is simply destroying traditional media. The blog reposts from other blogs, contains original content, and posts users testimonials and commentaries. No censorship, no agenda, other than transparency and faith in democracy.
What’s more, the top site in Greece, runs on a blogspot platform, with no commercial advertisements.

The blog is heralded for disseminating information which led to the resignation of Minister Angela Gerekou last week, who quit after her husband was found owing over €5.5 million in taxes.

The age of information filtering is coming to an end. The risks and dangers obvious: unreliable information, lack of quality and depth in writing, and all the reasons given in a journalism class. But for a country like Greece, where the democratic deficit has been multiplied by influencable media, the value of real freedom and democracy is priceless.

Let’s hope the political “democratic” response is to impose stringent regulations on blogs.

Until then, the “rodents” will continue to gnaw away at politicians with deep pockets.

For those who don’t know what blog is being refered to in this article visit: troktiko.blogspot.com


http://www.neurope.eu/articles/100960.php

Sokratis giolias the man running Troktiko was murdered today at 5:25 by 3 guys in police uniforms for more check out Troktiko

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Thanks for sharing Anemos, I will visit the site later and see what I find!

The murdering of journalists is a new low
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Greece shot in the heart again

The gunning down in cold blood yesterday of 37-year-old journalist Sokratis Giolias should concern us all and, above all, the government of this country.

Whether the killing, in a predawn attack outside the victim's home in Ilioupoli, is found to be a purely terrorist act or a joint operation organized by terrorist guerrillas and criminal thugs, the violent assassination shows that in today's Greece deadly forces continue to act with impunity.

Just like the bomb that exploded last month at the offices of Citizens' Protection Minister Michalis Chrysochoidis, killing one of his close aides, yesterday's attack is a clear message to the Socialist government that it must intensify investigations into the these violent undercurrents.

Greece has enough credibility problems already. This country cannot afford to project to the world the image of an underdeveloped country in which terrorists and organized crime can take human lives wherever and whenever they feel like it.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_columns_100015_20/07/2010_118479
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Anemos
Posted on: July 20th, 2010, 4:15pm Quote Report to Moderator
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i like how  you rule out responsibility for the people who would be most intrested in shuting him up, politicians and buissnes men
 he did cost Voskopoulos 5 mill euros(how many years has he been in the night again?) and his wife a ministry for example or MME owners for that matter he was about to start his own news paper and had a massive following online cause he didn't bury the storys like most do, come to think of it this is also a reason for politicians to have him killed.

Surprising terrorists claiming to be rebels would kill that kind of journalist  and leave bought off lackeys like pretenderis alone.
its also very "funny" that balistics seem to allways take em days (remember 2008?) but in this case where done in hours.



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Anemos, the above post of mine is a newspaper editorial (commentary) I reposted, the editorial is simply saying if this is a terrorist act or criminal act, the state needs serious action to investigate and figure this out, because these actions are bad for the Nation and its image.

No one ruled anyone out, however the latest news are indicating that the weapons used belong to a terrorist organization, and they know this because these weapons have been used before by the same organization.
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So Anemos you're saying that police officers killed in cold blood a "journalist" because he "exposed" some scandals?

It sounds pretty far fetched to me.

As far a the "troktiko" blog goes, I've visited that blog a few times and among the few "serious" articles 'e read there there are tons of garbage posts. It is surprising however that someone (some "organization") thought that this guy was important enough to be murdered.

40 years ago those type of organizations were murdering intellectual giants like Grigoris Lambrakis. Today they murder minions...

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true turns out the man was involved with some realy nasty s.h.i.t
or so they say now that he can't counter the accusations
@admin all i was saying is don't rule out the politicians 'cause in greece they ARE the criminals

http://www.zougla.gr/page.ashx?pid=2&aid=159288&cid=4
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Quoted from Anemos, posted July 24th, 2010, 6:25am at here
true turns out the man was involved with some realy nasty s.h.i.t
or so they say now that he can't counter the accusations
@admin all i was saying is don't rule out the politicians 'cause in greece they ARE the criminals

http://www.zougla.gr/page.ashx?pid=2&aid=159288&cid=4


sorry but i was never one of those quick to go to such blogs, so i am not fully running on this issue, other than it was on more atrocious unassumingly political murder in greece

please elaborate on "the man was involved with some realy nasty s.h.i.t or so they say"

just to get me a little closer to "running up to speed"

I just looooove fishing!!! Its all in the bait

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that is what the link for zougla was for


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Διά μέσου του συστήματος Κοντομηνά, ο - υπό την ιδιοκτησία του τότε - τηλεοπτικός σταθμός της Κάντζας άρχισε να αναμοχλεύει και να αναδεικνύει το σκάνδαλο του Βατοπαιδίου. Πρόκειται για κομβικό σημείο, αφού ήταν ενδεχομένως και η στιγμή της κομβικής αντίφασης του Σωκράτη Γκιόλια μεταξύ των πραγματικών του «πιστεύω» και των επιχειρηματικών συμφερόντων που κλήθηκε να υπηρετήσει. Ο Γκιόλιας υπήρξε από τους πλέον πιστούς - εάν όχι ο πιστότερος - οπαδούς του ηγουμένου Εφραίμ. Ήταν πνευματικό του τέκνο και ο ηγούμενος της Μονής Βατοπαιδίου ήταν ο πνευματικός του πατέρας, ο μέντοράς του αλλά και ο εξομολογητής του

Οι δραματικές εξελίξεις στο εκδοτικό μέτωπο με την υπόθεση Ζαχόπουλου, η αποχώρηση του Μάκη Τριανταφυλλόπουλου από το «Πρώτο Θέμα» και η ρήξη του με τον Θέμο Αναστασιάδη, η υπόθεση του κομιστή αλλά και η χαρακτηριστική υπόθεση της διακίνησης «μαύρου χρήματος» από τον Αναστασιάδη, με τις μαύρες σακούλες σκουπιδιών (ύψους 5.500.000 ευρώ), που εντοπίστηκαν στο κατάστημα της γαλλικής τράπεζας BNP, όλα αυτά λειτούργησαν καταλυτικά για τον Σωκράτη, ο οποίος τελικά επέλεξε στρατόπεδο. Αφοσιώθηκε στην οικοδόμηση μηχανισμών στήριξης της ομάδας συμφερόντων που υπηρετούσε.


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"...εξαρχής πως πίσω από το μηχανισμό troktiko κρύβονταν συγκεκριμένα επιχειρηματικά και εκδοτικά συμφέροντα"

Sounds to me that this is more of a "money" issue than a political one. No Greek is really interested in politics. It's all about the money...

It's a shame than another young man (only 37) lost his life for no good reason.

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greeks not interested in politics? you are kidding me, right?

just reading up, its all kinda wishy washy to me - everybody still is speculating and dreaming up scenarios, at this point

i mean..... how much was the blog site worth anyway

i STILL think there is a lot more than meets they eye

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Nobody is interested in "real" politics. It's all about the money and the "βόλεμα".
I don't think there has been any real Greek political figures (public figures) since Panagoulis' time.

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Here is some more news on this

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/100727/world/international_us_greece_guerrilla
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Thanks for the info,
I too thought that he was killed because he had a big mouth. Now I dont know what to believe but i will deffinately not eat what they serve.

Once again we will never find out what has really happened.
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