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Posted on: July 3rd, 2010, 6:55am Quote Report to Moderator
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We recently received a message from IFPI Greece (ΕΝΩΣΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΠΑΡΑΓΩΓΩΝ ΗΧΟΓΡΑΦΗΜΑΤΩΝ) asking us to stop allowing the free and illegal exchange of songs and music albums through our forum.

As a result we are forced to censor all links pointing to music download portals (like Rapidhsare). As you'll see all *censored by IFPI* links will now show the message "censored by IFPI".

You can find a large selection of songs and full albums you can download legally here: http://astore.amazon.com/hellenismnetw-20

Thank you for your understanding and continuous support.

Below is the original message we received from IFPI Greece:


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I recently visited your site http://www.hellenism.net and I would like to praise your effort on preserving Hellenism.

I fully understand your effort in promoting Greek culture.
Yet, in your effort to do so, it seems that you broke some rules.
In your forum area you have included a music section, where it seems that various users send posts concerning Greek phonograms, escorted by links to external services (in most of the cases cyberlockers like *censored by IFPI*), where unauthorised copies of the phonograms are illegally stored and from where they can be downloaded and redistributed.

I understand that you will probably decline of any liability regarding your forum members' practices.
Yet, you probably understand that such a claim is unsound and does not discharge you from your administrating duties.

Being an IT Manager, you surely have ways of limiting such illegal activities, and I expect you will do so upon receiving my letter.
I therefore expect you to remove all links included in the music posts and take measures to restrict such actions in the future.

IFPI Greece will continue to monitor your website, and will have no alternative but to proceed to any appropriate actions, in case we observe that infringement of our rights continues.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

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den gnwrizw an einai kleidwmeno to topic alla gia toy logoy to alh8es osa exoyn timoyla
einai kyriolektika epi plhrwmj?
Apo edw pia den mporoyme na katebazoyme?
ginetai na ginei ligo pio analytiko to topic?

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Den einai kleidomeno to topic kai tha ithela na grapsete tis apopseis sas.

Opos blepeis to minima pou pirame apo tin IFPI itan ksekatharo.

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ofeiloume na to sebastoyme (an k i ifpi kalo 8a htan na kanei mia voltoyla se allous trakers na dei ti ginetai.....)
to 8ema epishs einai to e3hs....sto upload ti ginetai? oloi oi uploaders 8a mporoun na postaroun ekei ta album tous? me sygxwreis an kanw anohtes erwthseis, alla opws katalabaineis ligo poly 3eboleyomaste oloi mas...kai oi paraliptes kai ekeinoi poy dinoun!
Eyxaristw gia thn katanohsh!

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Sou esteila PM (private message). Koitakse ekei

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hahahhaha

as if ...

but then.....the idea of killing part of the link with a big "warning sign"  shouting "censored" is going to make IFPI happy

but then..... who knows..... maybe they are selectively naive enough (or completely out and out  stupid )and "hit" on a minor forum but leave the "big boys" get away with it all

kind reminds me of greek politics

chase with passion the little guys that steal the odd loaf of bread, while not daring to touch those that steal millions

I just looooove fishing!!! Its all in the bait
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mean time.... i am pissing myself laughing

people now are switching to hotfile and megadownload instead

stupid IFPI

δεν πατε πρώτα, βρε γαμώτο, να να παριστάνετε τους κυνηγούς σε όλους τους αραπάδες που έχουν μπουχτίσει την ελλαδα και πουλάνε παράνομα CD παντού...ακόμα και στα νησιά

ίσως τότε πολλοί θα σας πάρουν στα σοβαρά οτι δήθεν προστατεύετε τους "παραγωγούς ηχογραφημάτων"

I just looooove fishing!!! Its all in the bait
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people will always find a way to exchange music online

right or wrong its just the way it is  
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exactly

if anything the IFPI's efforts are just pathetic

they rather chase, supposedly, all those unknowns on the net....while leaving those in your face "retailers", for want of a better word, on every street corner in greece, multiply like rats in a sewage

a mate of mine just came back from kefalonia and he told me....there i was.....in this tiny village....and there is this nigerezo selling cds......happened to go to another horio.....and there is the same guy, with one of his mates, also from nigeria, both pushing his wares

he said half jokingly.......i kept on seeing them everywhere in zambia, so i come to greece....and they followed me here

so i ask him....."you must be a good client"

his answer? ..... "e...ti na kanoume"

'nough said

I just looooove fishing!!! Its all in the bait
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I understand that you will probably decline of any liability regarding your forum members' practices.
Yet, you probably understand that such a claim is unsound and does not discharge you from your administrating duties. http://www.ghdhairukmart.net/ghduk/

Being an IT Manager, you surely have ways of limiting such illegal activities, and I expect you will do so upon receiving my letter.
I therefore expect you to remove all links included in the music posts and take measures to restrict such actions in the future
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IFPI Greece will continue to monitor your website, and will have no alternative but to proceed to any appropriate actions, in case we observe that infringement of our rights continues.

i wonder........what do they actually mean by "monitor"........?
let me guess......we are under observation...?
ouaou!this is the first time it happens(specially on the web)(where everybody can see every single click!)
let me imagine the next "reasonable"excuse somebody can configure to "observe" me.....
and here is the question.............. HOW CAN IFPI (OR ANYONE ELSE) "MONITOR" ANY SITE....? DO THEY HAVE THE APROPRIATE(LEGAL)PERMISSION TO PROVIDE ANY EVIDENCE(FOUND MAYBE HERE)TO ANY COURT?
IS THIS ACTION CALLED "SPYING"(WELL....NOT EXACTLY,BUT IT IS AT LEAST AGAINST THE LAW OF THE PERSONAL RIGHTS)
SO.....is this monitoring LEGAL enough?

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